Tweets from Learning Analytics conference 2011
March 4, 2011,
I've previously posted all my tweets from different conferences, and I
thought I'd do it again with the
conference. I don't know how
useful it is to others, but at the very least, it's a very useful
archive for myself. I tweeted much more in the beginning, and began to
write more in the Etherpad later
- at the end I wasn't writing much of anything.
I made a
of one way of preparing these lists.
@gsiemens In which building of the Banff Centre is #lak11
@courosa I fell off the lak course too early, from what I gathered
though it's quite a grab bag. The conference will be interesting
Finally at #Lak11, great place. Already buzzing with conversations
and excitement. This will be fun!
Should be of interest to #lak11 participants RT @eknight A Working
Badge Paper (for your feedback and collaboration):
@gsiemens recommends newcomers in #elearning field to "go data" -
that's where the careers will be. All the big companies hiring.
#lak11 "doing data analysis "to" the learner, vs. "for" the
#lak11 One of my concerns is that a lot of the "open learner
models", etc, is based around guided discovery, tutoring. How about
#lak11 more open-ended inquiry based, constructivist learning?
Training vs education vs discovery vs creation?
#lak11 "As soon as you start measuring something, you change
people's behaviour" - yes! One of my big concerns.
First mention of latent semantic analysis at #lak11. Great - how
does it tie in with semantic web and social web?
@dgasevich Could you share a copy of the '06 "Learning Object
Context on the Semantic Web"? UToronto doesn't have access to
RT @sbskmi: Learners won't care about algorithms -- until an
algorithm thinks you will fail your course and blocks your course
.@dgasevich shows software tools loco-analyst
http://bit.ly/fF59m6 and intelleo
http://bit.ly/e8dRXb - fascinating #lak11 Great conversations around coffee break@ #lak11. Corporate
training, #CSCW, business analytics, research collab, #OA, ... All
For fun, I'll try to take notes in #etherpad, feel free to jump in
and add stuff:
http://bit.ly/hxleEj #lak11 Wish presenters at #lak11 could use short urls on their slides,
make it easier to type in on our side, before you change slides.
The #lak11 visualization shows how little time I spent in the
course, and how quickly I fell off.
"altruistic learning (MOOCs etc) vs competitive learning (for
grades, curved, zero-sum game)" - see differences in collab.
#lak11 "Participation is nice, but it doesn't really tell you what
learning is happening - content analysis as well"
#lak11 DataTel already hosts big datasets of learning interaction -
wants more. Very interesting to #P2PU.
#lak11 Is there a common format to describe learning interactions
across different platforms, to make it available to lot's of vis
#lak11 So many fun new tools to play with / explore. Hope these
will be gathered somewhere (rather than having to mine all the PPTs)
#lak11 Would be great to have a "speed-geeking" session where
people can showcase their tools etc more intimately.
#lak11 Oh oh, @psychemedia is up. I have a feeling my fingers are
going to hurt from all the notes I need to take...
Great intro - "how can non-programmers do this kind of stuff,
extract and analyze data" #lak11
#lak11 @psychemedia : "Data is a dish best served raw" - great
slogan for the #od #opendata movement
#lak11 "A way of having a conversation with data in a visual form"
something we are very good at (doing through vision vs through
A few people are starting to help me keep notes from #lak11 on
#p2pu's #etherpad. Very fun, and useful.
RT @malpaso: HIrst neglected to mention "transformation" (one
structure to another) as a step. Not a trivial step for
@aribadernatal Maybe. But would be useful with a list of data that
these tools need, so we can know what to export. #lak11
#lak11 Note to self: read up on and play with ManyEyes.
How do you link your own data, if there is no unique identifier? If
I want to writ about OU academics, how do I make it easy to link?
#lak11 Try to use consistent usernames. Not perfect (might not be
available, someone could set up acct w/your username on new soc
#lak11 Again, Twitter following isn't necessarily meaningful. I
follow more than 800 ppl, but I don't read all of their tweets every
#lak11 Retweets might be a better metric, but also not perfect.
Would be neat if there were "twitter trends" showing me whose tweets
#lak11 But Twitter doesn't know, because Nambu pulls down all the
tweets and filter them for me.
#lak11 It's funny how incredibly much easier it is to map Twitter
followers, then to map co-citations in academic papers!
@gconole We need unique academic IDs, and unique paper IDs, and
citations/papers need to use them. There are initiatives but ...
RT @sbskmi: @psychemedia is the mashup DJ spinning his discs here at
#lak11 But is current SNA adequately tuned for LEARNING?
RT @malpaso: Endless data. Endless patterns. Endless visualizations.
What's relevant for decision and action? #lak11
@gsiemens Yes, there are others too. But haven't seen a single
journal including this info yet. #lak11
@sbskmi Philosophizing abt diff. ways of live collab. notes - wonder
how would be different in Compendium etc.
http://bit.ly/hxleEj #lak11 RT @niklas_karlsson: Data from the course #Lak11 can easily be
misinterpreted when personal interpretations are made.
http://bit.ly/fnAiLe #lak11 #lak11 Wonderful lunch buffet, and great conversations about the
amazing surveillance potential of data analytics. We know your
#lak11 One of the frustrating things to me is the disconnect
between schools of education and teach&learn in higher education.
#lak11 No link between Office of Teaching Advancement and School of
Education at University of Toronto.
When where? :) RT @gsiemens Who's up for dinner/beverages later
tonight? #lak11 @mweller is organizing :)
One of the core questions of #P2PU!! RT @rmitchell Who Does? ;) RT
@aribadernatal: "Students don't
do optional." #LAK11 Brilliant. RT @dougclow @houshuang @rmitchell @aribadernatal
Students don't do optional, but many learners do! d:-) #lak11
Unfortunately #p2pu etherpad seems to be unstable, moving notes to
http://bit.ly/hH3EHN #lak11 RT @technostats: @sbskmi - socio-cultural discourse analysis as a
potential measure of knowledge acquisition. Very interesting
Great talk by @sbskmi at #lak11. Very excited by new platforms for
"reflective deliberation" Use at #p2pu? Potential4analysis&deep
I heard rumours in the corridor about hot springs tonight - I'm
interested :) #lak11
http://bit.ly/f65vfu #lak11 Hot
springs location #lak11 I find some of todays talks very interesting, others not at
all. Wonder if others feel the same. Is learning analytics one thing
#lak11 or several things? Are there clear overlaps/synergies? Or is
this a collection of two different groups of people?
#lak11 @gsiemens: Do we need different analytics for different
disciplines? Is there no universal "learning science"?
#lak11 gsiemens: Learners will game metrics. Me: only if the
metrics are high stakes (ie. does it also apply at P2PU?)
#lak11 gsiemens: Interesting disciplinary differences between
socsci/humanities and CS in conference steering committe.
Great talk RT @sbskmi Theory-based Learning Analytics: #LAK11 talk
RT @psychemedia: @gsiemens Presentation graphics may well be
different to visualisations used in more analytic phase...? #lak11
RT @CosmoCat: Don´t miss @dougclow ´s "The Learning Analytics Cycle"
http://t.co/6BCewhf - and notes from
@houshuang http://bit.ly/fTTLW6 #lak11 Starting collaborative note taking today here:
http://bit.ly/g2b2wC, yesterday's notes are
here: http://bit.ly/hH3EHN #lak11 #lak11 @gsiemens: "@psychemedia is the McGyver of data" -
RT @lgully: Hirst: irony of course descriptions written for grads
not students seeking info #LAK11. Need discoverable info.
RT @lgully: RT @CrudBasher: #lak11 Totally agree -> Hirst -
learning should be lifelong. Universities should keep a learning
relationship with grads
#lak11 "Predictors vs causes:predictors of learning outcomes may be
useful for "diagnostic" purposes, but need not be causally related"
RT @opencontent: @JonElmSherrill We almost always have ~more~ data
online, it's just significantly impoverished... Pick your poison?
#lak11 Finally a presenter using short urls, thank you
#lak11 Ah, it was
Mahout - thanks Andrew. #lak11 Reputation as a proxy for learning in informal learning
contexts - Doug Clow. Very interesting to #p2pu!
RT @Anna_De_Liddo: @dougclow I LOVE iSpot! We would need an iSpot
for learning! what about laSpot: spot new learning analytics
What does @dougclow have against power-laws anyway? :) #lak11
Very dense talk by Dan Suthers on multi-level analysis. Just read
his paper last night - lot's I don't understand, but fascinating
#lak11 Interesting design of sessions here - very little time to
ask questions or involve presenters in discussions around their
For new arrivals, collaborative notes on #lak11 sessions being
http://bit.ly/g2b2wC Feel free
to join. RT @psychemedia: SNAPP bookmarklet code
http://bit.ly/hSmBy3 #lak11 .@cteplovs @dreff Wish you both could have been here! But Ravi
Vatrapu is doing a great job. #lak11
RT @cab938: Bears as learners, what a nice example for a conference
in banff #lak11
Varatrapu: "Many ICT managers say that their IT systems are UNESCO
heritage - cannot be touched". Now cloud-based, avoid problem
CommonLibrary on Sourceforge (Phil Ice mentioned this):
http://bit.ly/gc0IfA #lak11 That wraps up some pretty intense note-taking. Check out
http://bit.ly/g2b2wC, feel free to add
info. Will post on blog tonight. #lak11 RT @psychemedia: Really nice idea - give students a VM instance
within which to do course related activities... and track them while
they're at it ;-0 #lak11
@dougclow Not competition, complementarity :)Was just saying to
Andrew that it would be neat to combine them to get sth more
Internet seems a bit more stable - I'm trying collab notes on
http://bit.ly/dZtfdM #lak11 Great conversation over lunch with @sbskmi, Dan Suthers, Ravi
Vatrapu and @anna_de_liddo, lot's of new ideas. #lak11
Hoping someone will announce some collective activities tonight
(dinner, drinks, springs, night skiing, improv? :)) #lak11
#lak11 Sorry about note taking, feeling a bit overwhelmed by great
ideas and things to explore. Luckily this is all being captured.
@dougclow Or maybe we should collaboratively create an interpretive
snow sculpture that embodies the key lesson from the conference?
#lak11 Interesting UoC has drop-out rate of 40%. Wonder if #p2pu
can aim to beat that...
@xaoch It's a really nice hike, but I think it gets dark around
6:15, and there is no lighting there. #lak11
@sbskmi This is key even for #p2pu, which uses multiple external
platforms for courses. #LAK11
@xaoch Easier if people could use same e-mails. Also need to get all
the info in, not all services provide RSS etc. #lak11
.@gsiemens Summing up #lak11 with "intimate encounter with tree"
metaphor. Field is indeed moving fast, and lot's of opportunities 4
We're thinking of going to springs at 6 (meet in lobby), and then
for dinner/drinks if people want. #lak11
Just back in Toronto after great #lak11 conference. Now lot's of
follow-up and thinking about conference themes. Stay in touch all!
RT @markmelia: Glass - a key component to ubiquitous learning in the
future - maybe -
http://youtu.be/6Cf7IL_eZ38 - thanks
to tony bates for sharing #lak11 Notes from second day of #lak11 posted:
http://bit.ly/gkfwxV. Hope to write more
reflective blog posts soonish. #oer
March 4, 2011
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